It’s stupid, but God isn’t going to run the universe that way. If you want to stick your hand in a meat grinder, you are free to do that. Now, that does in a way mean you have permission to be bad. You get into heaven by being bad and accepting forgiveness. The difference is that in heaven they accept the forgiveness, in hell they reject it. There is nobody in heaven but forgiven sinners because there was nobody available to go to heaven except forgiven sinners and there is nobody in hell except forgiven sinners. What it said in Jesus is, by the blanket absolution of everybody in the death of Christ, that God is not going to get anybody.įor example, who is in heaven? People think it is good guys. The point is that as long as the world runs this show what it tries to say is that if you do something wrong God will get you. Robert Farrar Capon: Well, one of the problems with any authentic pronouncement of the gospel is that it introduces us to freedom. You told me that if we would follow the commandments everything would be worked out all right, but if we don’t follow the commandments here, or anyway we haven’t done it….I have got to have a script. I have difficulty with many of the things you said, just as you suggested. I want to thank you for a fine presentation and also say that you are a very challenging man. An amazing interview with one of our heros, from the website for something called the Chicago Sunday Evening Club ( You can also find a couple of his sermons on their site.į loyd Brown: Here again is Robert Farrar Capon.
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